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Saturday Cadet Challenge: Adv. Certain Formality
Posted: 13 May 2017 01:06 PM   [ Ignore ]  
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OP will no longer be updated - I’ve retired from the game (09th Sep 2017), LLAP.

For a minimalist crew approach (using just three crew who can cover an Epic mission on both days) read this thread:
Minimum Crew for Advanced Challenges - AviTrek (Jun 2017)

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WaldoMag - 28 August 2017 04:09 AM

Once all nodes are crit. all you need are 5 crew.

For Saturday challenge you only need four crew. For Sunday’s challenge you need to add one crew to guarantee success on last epic mission - I think 5 crew choices are available (including Klingon Dukat and Troi).

The four for Sat. challenge are Saavk, B’Etor, Ezri, and Torres.
Saavik is used for SCI/CMD, B’Etor DIP/SEC, Ezri SEC/MED, Torres for ENG.

These four can garner all standard rewards and guarantee success on all missions except Sunday’s epic Of Two Evil. So if you are not worried about that one mission on epic, all you need are those four.

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My recommendations:

Command
Lursa Duras = 564-696 (Klingon, Scoundrel)
Replaces Klingon Dukat for Sunday’s Adv: United Federation cadet challenge

Diplomacy
Lwaxana Troi = 535-708 (Federation, Diplomat, Betazoid, Romantic, Civilian, Telepath)
Replaces Captain Dathon for Sunday’s Adv: United Federation cadet challenge

Engineering
Maquis Takeover Torres = 506-610 (Starfleet, Human, Klingon, Maquis, Jury Rigger)
Replaces Donik for Sunday’s Adv: United Federation cadet challenge

Security
Private S. Money = 572-678 (Human, MACO, Marksman, Veteran)
Constable Odo = 550-608 for Sunday’s Adv: United Federation cadet challenge
(Alternatively Third Remata’Klan = 552-652 but he’s not an event character and less useful traits)

Science
Lieutenant Saavik = 564-708 (Vulcan, Starfleet, Federation, Resourceful, Telepath)
Replaces Ensign Mendon for Sunday’s Adv: United Federation cadet challenge

Medicine
Doctor Selar = 567-905 (Vulcan, Doctor, Starfleet, Federation, Telepath)
Was already being used for Sunday’s Adv: United Federation cadet challenge

So the total rare crew needed for the Saturday/Sunday challenges is 7 (up from 6)

Before x 6 (Sunday only)
Cmd: Klingon Dukat
Dip: Captain Dathon
Eng: Donik
Sec: Third Remata’Klan
Sci: Ensign Mendon
Med: Doctor Selar

Now x 7 (Saturday & Sunday)
Cmd: Lursa Duras
Dip: Lwaxana Troi
Eng: Maquis Makeover Torres
Sec: Private S. Money / Constable Odo
Sci: Lieutenant Saavik
Med: Doctor Selar

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Recommended (Base + Min proficiency) stats = 460-540 for Epic difficulty (if it’s similar to AUF).

Top 3 Female crew per skill:

Green indicates they can qualify for Sunday’s Adv: United Federation (alien/part alien) cadet challenge as well, saving crew space.

Command
Lursa Duras = 564-696 (Klingon, Scoundrel)
Rifle Janeway = 537-593 (Human, Federation, Starfleet, Resourceful, Gambler)
Captain Kasidy Yates 516-651 = (Federation, Civilian, Human, Bajoran, Smuggler)

Diplomacy
Lwaxana Troi = 535-708 (Federation, Diplomat, Betazoid, Romantic, Civilian, Telepath)
Senator Cretak = 524-627 (Romulan, Diplomat)
B’Etor Duras = 508-666 (Klingon, Scoundrel)

Engineering
Ensign Robin Lefler = 632-746 (Human, Federation, Starfleet, Innovator, Resourceful)
Maquis Takeover Torres = 506-610 (Starfleet, Human, Klingon, Maquis, Jury Rigger)
Holodeck 3 Dr. Brahms = 445-537 (Federation, Starfleet, Civilian, Hologram, Human, Cyberneticist, Warp Theorist)

Security
Private S. Money = 572-678 (Human, MACO, Marksman, Veteran)
Expedition Vash = 516-610 (Human, Federation, Scoundrel, Explorer, Exoarchaeology, Smuggler)
Sniper Ezri Dax = 429-535 (Federation, Starfleet, Trill, Counselor, Investigator, Marksman)

Science
Lieutenant Saavik = 564-708 (Vulcan, Starfleet, Federation, Resourceful, Telepath)
Lt Commander Nella Daren = 542-626 (Federation, Starfleet, Human, Astrophysicist, Musician)
Subcommander T’Pol = 541-597 (Vulcan, High Command, Astrophysicist, Telepath)

Medicine
Doctor Selar = 567-905 (Vulcan, Doctor, Starfleet, Federation, Telepath)
Commando Crusher = 554-642 (Human, Starfleet, Federation, Doctor, Undercover Operative)
CMO Pulaski = 540-686 (Human, Starfleet, Federation, Doctor)
Temporal Shift Kes = 533-714 (Ocampa, Civilian, Botanist, Prodigy, Telepath, Nurse)
Deanna Troi = 524-694 (Federation, Starfleet, Human, Betazoid, Empath, Counselor)

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Here are the Female 3* crew in the game:

B’Etor Duras
Captain Kasidy Yates
CMO Ogawa
CMO Pulaski
Commando Crusher
Deanna Troi
Doctor Selar
Dr. Carol Marcus
Ensign Robin Lefler
Expedition Vash
Gilora Rejal
Holodeck 3 Dr. Brahms
Lieutenant Saavik
Lt Commander Nella Daren
Lursa Duras
Lwaxana Troi
Maquis Takeover Torres
Mara
Private S. Money
Rifle Janeway
Senator Cretak
Sniper Ezri Dax
Subcommander T’Pol
Temporal Shift Kes
Vedek Winn Adami

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Posted: 13 May 2017 01:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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All I know is that they will need to add more crew slots if I am to participate in a new cadet challenge. My only 3* female is Deanna Troi.

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Posted: 13 May 2017 01:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Edit: Original post from OP (moved here due to character limit):

I guess they finally added it smile

See the 2.1.0 Server Build Notes.

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Just wondering why there’s still no Saturday Cadet Challenge.

If there is one introduced do you think they’ll make it Adv. Certain Formality?

I would assume so (since the Ex Astris, Scientia appears 3 times anyway and the United Federation challenge was made an advanced one for Sundays).

Surely there’s enough 3* Rare Female crew members to make such a challenge viable (I haven’t checked). I assume they would need base + min proficiency greater than 460-540 (although traits could assist with critical success nodes).

Finally, I thought I saw Nod post somewhere recently that the cadet challenges were under review (but I might have imagined it). Can anyone provide a link?

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All I know is that they will need to add more crew slots if I am to participate in a new cadet challenge. My only 3* female is Deanna Troi.

That is a good point. Some people are constantly treading a fine line between maximum crew capacity and having to airlock people they haven’t immortalized.

The additional 4 or 5 required crew for a female advanced challenge would increase pressures on crew slots further.

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Posted: 13 May 2017 02:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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I am likely one of the few who doesn’t want a Saturday challenge. Granted, the shorter cool down times have made things way better in my opinion, but any break in the action is good as far as I’m concerned.

That said, I’m for a change to “A Certain Formality” for Sunday!

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Posted: 13 May 2017 02:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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airlocked - 13 May 2017 02:14 PM

I am likely one of the few who doesn’t want a Saturday challenge. Granted, the shorter cool down times have made things way better in my opinion, but any break in the action is good as far as I’m concerned.

That said, I’m for a change to “A Certain Formality” for Sunday!

It’s coming, we know it’s coming because we’ve seen the daily mission to do cadet missions.  Daily mission with a day with no cadet missions doesn’t make sense.

female 3*s seems very limiting though.  as without Money, you aren’t making it through any security nodes on the highest difficulty. 

will more likely be Starfleet or federation requirement.  plenty of character to choose from for each stat then.

and Honor seems the most likely current reward, and the one that would make sense to delay as they are figuring out the proper amount.

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Posted: 13 May 2017 02:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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I am likely one of the few who doesn’t want a Saturday challenge. Granted, the shorter cool down times have made things way better in my opinion, but any break in the action is good as far as I’m concerned.

That said, I’m for a change to “A Certain Formality” for Sunday!

It’s coming, we know it’s coming because we’ve seen the daily mission to do cadet missions.  Daily mission with a day with no cadet missions doesn’t make sense.

female 3*s seems very limiting though.  as without Money, you aren’t making it through any security nodes on the highest difficulty. 

will more likely be Starfleet or federation requirement.  plenty of character to choose from for each stat then.

and Honor seems the most likely current reward, and the one that would make sense to delay as they are figuring out the proper amount.

Good point. I’ll take honor over shuttle boosts.

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Posted: 13 May 2017 03:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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[NDQ] A Blues fan - 13 May 2017 01:36 PM
Grant77 - 13 May 2017 01:32 PM

All I know is that they will need to add more crew slots if I am to participate in a new cadet challenge. My only 3* female is Deanna Troi.

That is a good point. Some people are constantly treading a fine line between maximum crew capacity and having to airlock people they haven’t immortalized.

The additional 4 or 5 required crew for a female advanced challenge would increase pressures on crew slots further.

Allowing players to use immortalized crew members in cadet challenges would be an interesting and creative solution to a problem that every player struggles with.

It would also allow and encourage players to level more 2* and 3* crew. I’d love to do so, but I never have the room.

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Posted: 13 May 2017 04:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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[NDQ] A Blues fan - 13 May 2017 01:36 PM
Grant77 - 13 May 2017 01:32 PM

All I know is that they will need to add more crew slots if I am to participate in a new cadet challenge. My only 3* female is Deanna Troi.

That is a good point. Some people are constantly treading a fine line between maximum crew capacity and having to airlock people they haven’t immortalized.

The additional 4 or 5 required crew for a female advanced challenge would increase pressures on crew slots further.

Allowing players to use immortalized crew members in cadet challenges would be an interesting and creative solution to a problem that every player struggles with.

It would also allow and encourage players to level more 2* and 3* crew. I’d love to do so, but I never have the room.

Just to be clear, I know you mean cryo’ed crew, because they are not taking up crew slots.
LOL. This would have been a better solution than those 15 crew slots they have given. I know we earned 5,  but the bar was set so low, they gave it to us.

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Posted: 01 June 2017 12:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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I guess they finally added it smile

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Roonis - 13 May 2017 02:18 PM
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I am likely one of the few who doesn’t want a Saturday challenge. Granted, the shorter cool down times have made things way better in my opinion, but any break in the action is good as far as I’m concerned.

That said, I’m for a change to “A Certain Formality” for Sunday!

It’s coming, we know it’s coming because we’ve seen the daily mission to do cadet missions.  Daily mission with a day with no cadet missions doesn’t make sense.

female 3*s seems very limiting though.  as without Money, you aren’t making it through any security nodes on the highest difficulty. 

will more likely be Starfleet or federation requirement.  plenty of character to choose from for each stat then.

and Honor seems the most likely current reward, and the one that would make sense to delay as they are figuring out the proper amount.

Vash isn’t terrible at security… grin

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Posted: 01 June 2017 01:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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I must reiterate this to the STT team.

More crew slots are an absolute necessity if you are going to ask us to bring several new characters out of the vault. Most of us are already operating on a knife’s edge when it comes to crew slots.

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Posted: 01 June 2017 01:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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Grant77 - 01 June 2017 01:00 PM

I must reiterate this to the STT team.

More crew slots are an absolute necessity if you are going to ask us to bring several new characters out of the vault. Most of us are already operating on a knife’s edge when it comes to crew slots.

No one is requiring you to maintain the crew to continue doing the old content.  For the most part, there’s sufficient Blues where you can have crew that are Female AND Alien.  Security may be the only hole.  I believe the top 3* Female Alien SEC are Sniper Ezri and B’Etor Duras.

CMD: Saavik, Lursa Duras
DIP: Lwaxana
ENG: Maqui Torres
SEC: Sniper Ezri/B’Etor Duras
SCI: A bunch, the best of which is either Saavik or T’Pol
MED: Selar

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Posted: 01 June 2017 01:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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To those of you commenting on crew slots ... I’m sure that you can use the following 3*s as minimal crew:

- CMD Lursa
- SCI T’Pol
- ENG Torres

This mirrors the minimum required 2* crew of Sito, Pazlar & Seska that allows you to run an Epic mission on each day.

Of course you’ll need to 3-star some missions first, but hey.

This is my first guess without having seen the exact stats required for Saturday ... but hey, we’ll see how much they’ve changed the set-up.

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Grant77 - 01 June 2017 01:00 PM

I must reiterate this to the STT team.

More crew slots are an absolute necessity if you are going to ask us to bring several new characters out of the vault. Most of us are already operating on a knife’s edge when it comes to crew slots.

No one is requiring you to maintain the crew to continue doing the old content.  For the most part, there’s sufficient Blues where you can have crew that are Female AND Alien.  Security may be the only hole.  I believe the top 3* Female Alien SEC are Sniper Ezri and B’Etor Duras.

CMD: Saavik, Lursa Duras
DIP: Lwaxana
ENG: Maqui Torres
SEC: Sniper Ezri/B’Etor Duras
SCI: A bunch, the best of which is either Saavik or T’Pol
MED: Selar

Well said ...

You might want to consider Cretak for DIP as she’s also got a decent SEC. Torres has a similar SEC roll and you already have her for ENG ...
—> it will depend on trait bonuses I guess.

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Posted: 01 June 2017 01:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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Saturday Advanced Challenges allow you to win credits, and Epic difficulty rare rewards include Honor, Supply Kits, and Premium 1x Packs.


Quote is from the build notes.  If Honor, Supply Kits, and Premium 1x Packs are “rare” rewards I am assuming that means they can only be earned one time.

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RaraRacing - 01 June 2017 01:48 PM

Well said ...

You might want to consider Cretak for DIP as she’s also got a decent SEC. Torres has a similar SEC roll and you already have her for ENG ...
—> it will depend on trait bonuses I guess.

I just pulled Cretak out rather than Lwaxana… solely because I despise Lwaxana

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