i decided to try it and brought along a lvl 1 David Marcus as a punching bag. somehow i haven’t lost a single trophy overnight. what am i doing wrong? is he not coming up for others because i also have Sarek and GP Neelix on the team covering the same two skills? i know people are doing this to deliberately drop rank, have easier matchups, and in turn a longer streak. calling all the pro gauntlet cheaters. what’s the exact setup for this to work?

It’s hard to do specific research on how it picks the character from the defender.  My assumption always was it picked the character with the highest expected average amongst your selected crew.  In that case, you’d want to make sure your “bag” character had a 2-skill-combo that isn’t covered by ANY other character.

So, if you used a Lvl1 Marcus, you need to make sure you don’t use ANY other CMD or MED characters, or else they would be better matchups.

Alternatively, you could just load up on CMD/DIP/SEC/MED characters, so any time SCI/ENG comes up, you don’t have a matching crew.

so i crippled myself for nothing. great.

well, this new setup seems to be working. i went from 615 trophies to 579 in about an hour, so that’s 12 3-trophy losses.

p377y7h33f - 29 March 2017 05:22 PM

well, this new setup seems to be working. i went from 615 trophies to 579 in about an hour, so that’s 12 3-trophy losses.

ran into this a couple times now.  Go with Depth instead of throwing in trash.  If you load up on three stats, Command/Dip/Sec for example.  the gauntlet will pull someone with no matching stats for say a eng/sci roll.  gives you more goes at extending streak by giving you another usable character.

Wouldn’t you be better off with a single skill 1*?

Papinka - 29 March 2017 05:42 PM

Wouldn’t you be better off with a single skill 1*?

I maintain, you are better off just having no one for 2-3 stats and 5 good crew focused in others.

Roonis - 29 March 2017 05:37 PM

p377y7h33f - 29 March 2017 05:22 PM

well, this new setup seems to be working. i went from 615 trophies to 579 in about an hour, so that’s 12 3-trophy losses.

ran into this a couple times now.  Go with Depth instead of throwing in trash.  If you load up on three stats, Command/Dip/Sec for example.  the gauntlet will pull someone with no matching stats for say a eng/sci roll.  gives you more goes at extending streak by giving you another usable character.

that sounds like a good plan. i’m just worried about merits when it hits me with streaks of the 3 skills i don’t have.

Yeah, all these plans seems like Merit eaters. I had a 40 and 60 streak that dropped one single 20 Chroniton package. Tons of 5* trainers though.

I rather refresh as little as possible so I just load up on the free Merits get what I need from the faction shops.

South of Sulu - 29 March 2017 07:43 PM

Yeah, all these plans seems like Merit eaters. I had a 40 and 60 streak that dropped one single 20 Chroniton package. Tons of 5* trainers though.

I rather refresh as little as possible so I just load up on the free Merits get what I need from the faction shops.

you have to combine this strategy with deliberate tanking. always, always go for the 10 trophy fight, even if it’s harder than the 250 trophy fight. you can do that up until the very last session or two, and still be able to recover your rank at the end. staying the lowest possible rank throughout most of the gauntlet is the key here.

p377y7h33f - 29 March 2017 07:49 PM

South of Sulu - 29 March 2017 07:43 PM

Yeah, all these plans seems like Merit eaters. I had a 40 and 60 streak that dropped one single 20 Chroniton package. Tons of 5* trainers though.

I rather refresh as little as possible so I just load up on the free Merits get what I need from the faction shops.

you have to combine this strategy with deliberate tanking. always, always go for the 10 trophy fight, even if it’s harder than the 250 trophy fight. you can do that up until the very last session or two, and still be able to recover your rank at the end. staying the lowest possible rank throughout most of the gauntlet is the key here.

See, the “even if its harder” aspect of this strategy is where I don’t think you’re actually getting the benefit you think you’re getting.

Basically, your goal is to maintain long streaks.  Reasonable.  You facilitate this process by leaving a hole in your crew so you lose points so you can get “easier” matchups.  Still with you.  But then you go with harder matchups where you have a higher probability of losing in order to keep your score low.

This is completely counter to your entire strategy.  If you’re trying to maintain a streak, you should be going for guaranteed shots; NOT harder shots because they give you less points. 

Even with ALL 99% probability wins, you only have a 50% shot of your streak going beyond 70.  Your expected streak drops all the way to 27 with a 97.5% probability.  It just seems like you’re needlessly handicapping yourself for next to no gain and even taking excessive risks with no tangible benefit.

That said, I’ll take the free wins in my gauntlet and encourage every other person to take part in this strategy.

Peachtree Rex - 30 March 2017 07:25 AM

p377y7h33f - 29 March 2017 07:49 PM

South of Sulu - 29 March 2017 07:43 PM

Yeah, all these plans seems like Merit eaters. I had a 40 and 60 streak that dropped one single 20 Chroniton package. Tons of 5* trainers though.

I rather refresh as little as possible so I just load up on the free Merits get what I need from the faction shops.

you have to combine this strategy with deliberate tanking. always, always go for the 10 trophy fight, even if it’s harder than the 250 trophy fight. you can do that up until the very last session or two, and still be able to recover your rank at the end. staying the lowest possible rank throughout most of the gauntlet is the key here.

See, the “even if its harder” aspect of this strategy is where I don’t think you’re actually getting the benefit you think you’re getting.

Basically, your goal is to maintain long streaks.  Reasonable.  You facilitate this process by leaving a hole in your crew so you lose points so you can get “easier” matchups.  Still with you.  But then you go with harder matchups where you have a higher probability of losing in order to keep your score low.

This is completely counter to your entire strategy.  If you’re trying to maintain a streak, you should be going for guaranteed shots; NOT harder shots because they give you less points. 

Even with ALL 99% probability wins, you only have a 50% shot of your streak going beyond 70.  Your expected streak drops all the way to 27 with a 97.5% probability.  It just seems like you’re needlessly handicapping yourself for next to no gain and even taking excessive risks with no tangible benefit.

That said, I’ll take the free wins in my gauntlet and encourage every other person to take part in this strategy.

well, i meant relatively harder. like if the most rewarding fight can be won with a very fatigued crew, but the cheapest fight requires a fresh strong crew, i’ll spend the fresh crew just to keep away from the higher ranking spots. unfortunately, no matter how much you tank, the cheapest fights eventually go up in price significantly, and you end up right in top 10 anyway. and then it doesn’t matter if you’re 1st or 9th, keeping the streak will be tough regardless.